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  1. 2009 March 16
    andrew morley permalink

    Do you know any breeders in the UK who breed mahogany goldens?

    • 2009 March 16

      There are dark colored goldens in the UK–mostly hunting lines.

      There dogs would be far more active than the typical British golden, though.

      This kennel here is for working dogs, and he’s importing a breeding dog from the US.
      http://www.nordenlights.co.uk/puppiesandtraineddogsforsale.phuse

      The dark colors exist only in working lines in the UK and the rest of Europe.

      The Kennel Club standard does not allow for red or mahogany. The original dogs, though, were very often of this color. The first dual Ch. in the breed was a mahogany, and the woman who really helped establish the breed as distinct from the flat-coat, Winnifred Charlesworth, bred really dark red dogs. (She also wrote the first breed standard in 1911.)

    • 2009 March 16

      http://www.lowfern.co.uk/ another person who might be able to help you.

  2. 2009 April 3
    Cynthia Lennox permalink

    I read your previous discussion about breeders and goldens, and I agree. I am sickened by what’s happened to the breed, both in appearance and health. I had a field trial type golden – a huge one – that I lost a year ago to lymphoma – a far too frequent event in the breed now. (I adopted her and she was from a backyard breeder.) She was the best dog I’ve had, and I’ve had nine dogs of various breeds over the course of my life.

    I’m really trying to find a good breader of dark goldens in the East as I’m located in PA. Almost all the dogs here are the show furballs – short legs and short noses. Most of your links are to western breeders.

    Do you or anyone else have contact with a breeder in the in Michigan, Ohio, PA, NJ, West Virgina, MD, or Virgina who breeds old fashioned goldens? The pup would be a companion dog, not for hunting, although I’d like to do obedience with her. I know Adirondack Goldens is in NY, but their dogs are very high ticket the last I checked and really geared towards birding.

    So sorry to hear about your position. As a professor, my best advice is to send out those applications and resumes. Also, faithfully read The Chronicle although I’m sure you’re already doing that. You might check with the Univ. of Pittsburgh – they have a fairly big poly-sci department housed under GSPIA.

    Best of Luck!

    • 2009 April 3

      In West Virginia, the average golden is of the working strain. However, most are from backyard breeders. I knew a breeder in a little town in Ritchie County, West Virginia; however, he’s no longer breeding them. My first dog’s dam came from that kennel and her sire came from Ohio.

      Most working-type goldens can be found in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, the Dakotas, and the Northern Rockies. That’s where they were imported from Canada– mainly Winnipeg and Vancouver.

      I wish I could help you find a breeder but because there aren’t huge pheasant preserves on the East Coast that can use a retriever like this, most of the dogs are big fur ball show dogs.

  3. 2009 April 6
    Cynthia Lennox permalink

    Thanks! If anyone has any suggestions about breeders, I’d certainly welcome it.

  4. 2009 June 16
    Dawn McNamara permalink

    Don’t know if you’ve seen this site. The oldest video clip I’ve watched so far was 1935. Thought you might be interested.

    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=20407

    • 2009 June 16

      Boy, that is an excellent site!

      Those old line Irish setters really do look at lot like golden retrievers– broad heads, smaller ears, and less feathering.

      The old line Irish were supposed to be the easiest setter to train and had the best noses. They still exist, bu there aren’t nearly enough of them.

      When I see old videos or photographs of those old Irish setters, I can see why they were used as outcrosses for wavy-coated, flat-coated, and golden retrievers.

    • 2009 June 16

      This one claims to have footage of golden retrievers: http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=20748

      Those are actually Clumber spaniels.

      Goldens weren’t that light in color or heavily built in 1938.

  5. 2009 June 16
    Cynthia Lennox permalink

    Has anyone had any experiences with Ambertrails Goldens near Ontario, Canada. The breeder has been breeding goldens for 30+ years.

  6. 2009 June 23

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