TNR is irresponsible

For the feral cat advocates, I have a very simple question:
If cats are a domesticated animal, then why is that they are allowed to roam everywhere?
You can’t let dogs, cattle, or horses do that. (Unless it’s grazing or hunting on public land or letting the dogs run at the dog park.)
And if a ferret ever was found roaming, I’m sure people would be demanding that they be banned.
I find that we have very unbalanced laws on animals in this country.
Dogs might be a predatory species, and they might kill deer and other animals. They are predators of livestock, especially sheep and goats. However, dogs actually have to learn how to kill, usually from other dogs. The motor patterns that dogs have for hunting and killer are innate; however, they have to learn to right context to use those motor patterns. They usually learn it from other dogs. Also, selective breeding has reduced or exaggerated certain motor patterns in dogs that prevents them from being effective predators. Most feral dog populations, like those that have been extensively studied in Italy, are scavengers.
For example, my golden retriever caught a small cottontail rabbit a few weeks ago, but she has been selected to not have the killing bite. Now, a retriever can learn to have a killing bite, but it’s not something they typically have in their predatory motor patterns. Now, non-retrieving retrievers can have this sequence.
Cats are much more instinctive hunters. They usually have the full sequence of hunting motor patterns. All they have to learn is what species to hunt.
Very often, they learn to hunt just about everything.
Now, I’m okay with native predators taking animals.
But I’m not okay with Mesopotamia wildcats taking millions of birds and small animals every year. Not only are they harming populations of those animals, they are competing with native wild predators for those resources.
More cats means fewer rabbits for beaglers and rabbit courses to chase. More cats means fewer game birds for gun dog enthusiasts to shoot.
I have often wondered why that people turn to cats whenever there is a rodent investation. Ferrets and terriers are a far better alternative.
Why?
Because you can direct a ferret or terrier into a barn or granary and easily pick it up after its done its damage. Using them does mean that you have to actually turn them out and watch them, but you know that your animal is doing its work and not killing off all the song birds or annoying the neighbors who like to feed the songbirds.
In fact, ferret droppings have long been known to be a rat repellent.
Rats and mice have an instinctive fear of mustelids, and the very scent of ferret droppings will send them running.
So ferret shit is a far more ecologically friendly way of ridding yourself of rats and mice than releasing the weapon of small animal destruction that we call the domestic cat.
And why would anyone think that releasing sterilized feral cats in an area would be a good idea?
I suppose if you really hate having native mammals and birds around, it would be a great idea.
If you like the idea of replacing native predators with an introduced one, it is an even better idea.
If any other introduced species killed native wildlife like cats do, most people would be demanding that they be controlled or eradicated.
When Burmese pythons went feral in South Florida, there is a huge movement to ban the ownership of large pythons, not just in Florida but in the US entirely. Because giant African land snails went feral in Florida, the various species of African land snail are currently banned nationwide.
Now, I’m not saying we should ban cats, and I’m okay with keeping barn cats near agricultural enterprises. I’m saying that in every other circumstance, cats need to be controlled. They need to be behind fenced yards or on leashes. Cat fencing exists. (Thanks to Pai for showing me this link at Terrierman.)
Further, if you actually cared about your pet cats, letting them roam is a terrible risk. Dogs and coyotes can kill them, and in some areas of the country, cougars have been seen preying on them. Further, they are exposed to disease, infection, and injury from other cats.
If they are truly a domestic animal, it is the ultimate cruelty to leave them up to their own devices. In the case of ferals, euthanizing them is responsible.
Now, if they are truly wild animals, then conservation agencies should have jurisdiction over them. In that case, they could set up controlled culls for cats.
But people want them in no man’s land.
They want to keep them as pets, so they can’t be culled like other introduced species. And they want them exempt from any laws that curb their roaming and/or firmly establish ownership. It’s like cats are allowed to exist in total anarchy.
I am deeply concerned about the ecology of this country. We have so many unique species. I don’t think we truly recognize the wonders of biodiversity on this continent. We certainly didn’t when Europeans first settled here. But now that we are beginning to realize that some of our actions are really harming the planet and the other species with which we share it. And we are contributing to these problems by letting our pet cats roam at large and by maintaining feral cat colonies.
Just as true greens must look at hunters differently than that animal rights fanatics, true greens may have to reconsider how we view cats. Sometimes facts and logic reveal uncomfortable realities, but denying the realities doesn’t wind up helping anything.
You’d rather have all of the feral cats euthanized instead? It’s the fault of people that cats are abandoned and left to fend for themselves. TNR prevents them from reproducing, and allows the cats to live out their (short) lives. Feral cats live 2 years, 3 at most, and it’s extremely difficult to acclimate them to a life enclosed. A feral cat kept behind a fence or in a house will do serious damage to themselves in their panic to escape.
Yes. Euthanize them. They aren’t meant to be living wild in North America.
It’s the fault of people who abandon them or let their females roam and give birth in the wild.
But it’s also not the fault of the native species they kill.
People have been killing feral cats for decades – if it actually worked, perhaps people wouldn’t be turning to TNR, which at least has the benefit of stabilizing the current population in the areas where it is responsibly undertaken (TNR: not just for fluffy-headed yuppies, anymore!).
I’m curious where you got the numbers of song birds killed by feral cats. As far as I know, there are no data on that, just vague guesses.
TNR is just the lesser of several evils, and until the source of feral cats (irresponsible owners) is extinguished, it’s still better than trying to kill our way out of this problem.
http://news.mongabay.com/2007/0509-wind.html
http://www.monmouthaudubon.org/c_cats.htm
People bitch about wind farms, day in and day out.
No one says a word about cats. Cats have caused some bird species to become extinct, although I will admit that few of them are North American.
I have issues with all introduced species, except two.
One is the red fox, which has not been proven to be a detrimental animal in the eastern North America (although not so in California). Red foxes are very good at keeping rodent numbers in check. They are also native to other areas of the country, like the Rockies, the Plains, and Northern New England. They probably were a vagrant species before Europeans came to my part of the world.
The other is the ring-necked pheasant, which at least does require people to conserve grassland habitat. Other species do benefit from that conservation.
We’ve been killing cats here for decades, too. And we normally have just one or two here every year. Of course, we are helped with the fact that we have several packs of wild coyotes.
People kill goats that are denuding islands. People kill feral hogs that are destroying ground nesting bird nests. We banned ownership of African giant land snails because they once went feral and ate a bunch of crops.
And yet when you say that the same thing should be done to an introduced predator, it’s as if you suggested that you go along with Mr. Swift’s “Modest Proposal.”
If feral dogs were doing to wildlife populations what cats are, I’d be all for killing them. But they really aren’t. In Australia, they are shooting dogs that are eating penguins. I say go ahead.
I don’t think TNR works. I think it makes people feel good. I don’t know if any real studies have been done.
Although the price of ammo is rising, there is no way that shooting cats is less cost effective than neutering them and releasing them. Even sedative-based euthanasia has got to be more cost effective.
I was following Winograd book perfectly until he started on this issue.
What we should do is regulate cats the way we regulate dogs. I have never seen what is special about cats that requires giving them such a carte blanche.
And I don’t think killing them works. I think it makes people feel good. I’m glad the Audobon society is encouraging people to keep their cats indoors, but I still don’t trust their cherry-picked data (What about all the positive data on cat colonies in NY??). No one’s arguing cats aren’t predators, but I feel their threat to birds has been exaggerated because they’re an easier target (ha ha) than, say, urban sprawl.
Feral cats are unique among invasive species in that they have a huge source of re-introduction – irresponsible pet owners. It might be easy to ban pet ownership of bullfrogs or giant snails – not so much cats.
Until people see cats as at least as valuable as dogs, they’re not going to spay and neuter them (or license them, or keep them indoors, etc). Until that happens, there will always be a source for feral cats and killing a few individuals here and there is going to do jack to help birds.
Encouraging people to think of cats as varmints that need to be shot is not going to help them gain value in the public’s eye. TNR at least has that long-term benefit of assigning them more value than, say, rats (which is another invasive species whose population only responds to the strongest of eradication efforts – if anything, pest control people have found that the ones they are able to kill tend to be the weaker animals, leaving the strongest, wiliest rats to reproduce). Another potential benefit of TNR over killing is even if you do inadvertently select for cats that are wary of traps/humans (long term monitoring/trapping programs can help with this to make sure you really do get every last one), you don’t immediately create a vacuum for them to fill with their offspring.
And if the Audobon society is really that worried about toxoplasmosis, than TNR would be a helluva better way to treat an at-risk population than killing them all and waiting for the next, unmedicated batch to breed up in the same area.
Here’s my problem with them– they are an introduced and very efficient predator.
Cherry-picking studies? Well, TNR people do it, too. I know that in rural areas, a simple policy of shooting all feral cats does affect their numbers. The guns get the ones the coyotes don’t get.
Now, I do agree with you about “natural selection,” but cats aren’t that wily. They are domesticated and very easy to trap in cage and box traps– not as easy as opossums. These cats usually don’t live more than 2 or 3 years, which means you have to constantly trap, neuter, and release. It really is easier to kill them.
I don’t know if this works in urban areas where you can’t shoot them, but in rural areas, shooting feral cats does have an effect. I know that when we didn’t shoot cats, the rabbits and ground nesting birds were less common than when we did.
The one good thing is that feral cats don’t survive well in rural areas or any place that gets really cold in the winter.